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PostSubject: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:49 pm

I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with all the stuff that's going on in Egypt, but it's pretty intense. All the Muslim rioting and stuff is crazy. Most are predicting a hostile Muslim takeover in the next week. What do you guys think about all of this?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:56 pm

It's crazy dude I agree. All becuase of the government there, right?


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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:02 pm

No But seriously, what's wrong with the government? Is it the president that they hate, or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:05 pm

Haze how about looking up an article about the current situation in
Egypt before you ask dumb obvious questions like that.

There are 31 ministers, heading each ministry, while the prime minister also heads the Ministry of Planning and International Co-operation.
The national assembly is called the People's Assembly, and has 454 seats, of which the president appoints 10 representatives. The National Democratic Party holds 415 of these seats.
Egypt is politically stable, but there have been many examples of unrest in recent years. Egypt has only a limited democracy, where elections allow only some political parites, and the elections have proven to allow few changes from pre-democratic times. Still, Egypt has made great advances, and may arrive at a true democracy in the coming years. The main challenge is the Muslim Brotherhood, which run for elections, but which adhere to an anti-democratic ideology. Their strength in the 2005 elections may stop Egypt's Western allies from pushing the democratic reforms any further.
Egypt is a country with a fair amount of freedom of speech, and civil rights are in most cases well secured.
At the present, the militant wings of Islamist groups (to which the Muslim Brotherood also belong) represent at the moment little threat to the Egyptian government, although the situation was uncertain after the bomb attacks at the tourist resort Sharm el-Sheikh in 2005.
At the present, there is about 17,000 political prisoners in Egypt. A majority of these are Islamists (according to The Egyptian Organization of Human Rights).
Egypt's political system receives strong financial support from the U.S., and, given all the challenges of the Egyptian state, they cannot do without this aid.
The Egyptian constitution defines the country as "an Arab Republic with a democratic, socialist system." The political power in the Egyptian system is divided into 4 parts: president, cabinet, legislature and court system; but actual power rests in the hands of the president. The president is elected for a period of 6 years through a referendum. The president has the power to appoint, dismiss and dissolve the other three parts of the system.
Egypt is divided into 26 governorates, each is with a governor appointed by the president.
Old political parties were abolished in 1953, and from 1962 to 1976 the Arab Socialist Union (ASU) was the only legal political party. Three political groups were in 1976 permitted within the ASU. The largest group of these is the National Democratic Party (NDP), which was the group of Anwar as-Sadat, former president. The two other groups are the Socialist Labor Party (including the Muslim Brotherhood) and the reconstituted Neo-Wafd Party.
The 2005 elections represented a little earthquake to Egyptian politics, although the ruling party remained in full control of the People's Assembly, controlling about 2/3 of all seats. Still, the strong progress by the Muslim Brotherhood, sent a signal of a people increasingly in the mood for political change. The Muslim Brotherhood had not been allowed any normal campaign, rather they had to run as independent candidates, and may well have reched greater popularity if they had been permitted to act as a normal political party.
In the September 7, 2005 presidential elections, Hosni Mubarak received a high 88.6% of the electorate, but many were still impressed by the contenders, Ayman Nour with his 7.3% and Numan Gomaa with 2.8%, who had faced many difficulties in reaching the people with their message.

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:29 pm

HaZe wrote:
No But seriously, what's wrong with the government? Is it the president that they hate, or something?

President has been in power for more than 30 years.

Pretty much a Dictator.

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:17 pm

I heard the protestors broke open a prison and let the prisoners escape. I think they burned down a few museums and towns too. Anyone else think that it might be time to bring in the tanks?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:19 pm

SexyZephyR wrote:
HaZe wrote:
No But seriously, what's wrong with the government? Is it the president that they hate, or something?

President has been in power for more than 30 years.

Pretty much a Dictator.

Don't forget the political corruption, lack of free speech, no elections, unemployment, and high prices on goods.

Honestly, I think America will go through this kind of rebellion someday in the future...agree?

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:23 pm

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SexyZephyR wrote:
HaZe wrote:
No But seriously, what's wrong with the government? Is it the president that they hate, or something?

President has been in power for more than 30 years.

Pretty much a Dictator.

Don't forget the political corruption, lack of free speech, no elections, unemployment, and high prices on goods.

Honestly, I think America will go through this kind of rebellion someday in the future...agree?
Absolutely.

George Santayana wrote:
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Just study the fall of Rome, the collapse of Byzantium or any other major empire. In the next 500 years, America will fall.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:38 pm

The protesters are on our side dude. The police ran over 50+ people with a van. And got promoted.

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:42 pm

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The protesters are on our side dude. The police ran over 50+ people with a van. And got promoted.
I wouldn't say that. They are Muslims, which means they do not ally themselves with western countries.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:46 pm

^Umm not all muslims are terrorists? There are plenty of muslims in Canada, and they are treated the same. The government of Afghanistan is probably Muslim. NATO has been helping them for years. Also, I think the protesting have gone out of hand...if you don't like the country, then leave. The police are putting down the law, upholding the justice system. And isn't that what they're trained to do?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:56 pm

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^Umm not all muslims are terrorists? There are plenty of muslims in Canada, and they are treated the same. The government of Afghanistan is probably Muslim. NATO has been helping them for years. Also, I think the protesting have gone out of hand...if you don't like the country, then leave. The police are putting down the law, upholding the justice system. And isn't that what they're trained to do?
Blue: I know that, but Muslims do not ally themselves with the US

Red: I agree to an extent. Most people can't leave, because they can't afford it, or other various reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:58 pm

egyptian strife whats that?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:09 am

Raze wrote:
egyptian strife whats that?
Tell me you're not serious...

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:55 am

The president of Egypt has stepped down. Discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:00 am

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The president of Egypt has stepped down. Discuss.
About time. However, the way he handed down the government to the military makes me...suspicious.

To me, everything's starting to look like a road to anarchy. Which will suck.

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:01 am

Neverwinter wrote:
darkprism wrote:
The president of Egypt has stepped down. Discuss.
About time. However, the way he handed down the government to the military makes me...suspicious.

To me, everything's starting to look like a road to anarchy. Which will suck.
^^This^^

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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:54 pm

SexyZephyR wrote:
HaZe wrote:
No But seriously, what's wrong with the government? Is it the president that they hate, or something?

President has been in power for more than 30 years.

Pretty much a Dictator.

Hmm so I heard. Thanks. Tey should just overthrow the dude then and just put a new president
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:57 pm

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Hmm so I heard. Thanks. Tey should just overthrow the dude then and just put a new president
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:58 pm

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Hmm so I heard. Thanks. Tey should just overthrow the dude then and just put a new president

Well then what do you suggest sir? I mean, everyone hates the dude right?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:04 pm

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Well then what do you suggest sir? I mean, everyone hates the dude right?
Did you even read this post?

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The Egyptian President has stepped down. Discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:05 pm

Hmm, my apoligies, no didn't see it. But who's most probably gonna be the next prez?
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:07 pm

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Hmm, my apoligies, no didn't see it. But who's most probably gonna be the next prez?

He handed the power down to the military, last I heard, but the Muslims will probably stage a hostile takeover in the next month or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Egyptian strife   Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:10 pm

Yeah, I heard of that but why not just choose and vote for a new presdient. Why would he hand the power to the military?
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