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PostSubject: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:11 pm

Can YOU prove it? I know that evolution is the standard creation theory taught today, but it's implausible and incomplete. I'm here to tell you that evolution is a lie. Proof: Here

As you can see, there are numeous problems with this theory. (Although it's really more of a hypothesis)
I'd be happy to answer any questions and objections you have.
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:51 pm

We don't need religious debates. As soon as I see that, topic locked.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:01 pm

Strictly scientific sir.
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:42 pm

I think it's true.
Otherwise, where did we come from?
We just magically appeared?
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:47 pm

No, that's the Big Bang theory.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:03 pm

The Big Bang created the universe, planets, stars, galaxies, etc. It has almost nothing to do with life on earth.

Darkprism, you may believe that evolution is a lie but there are many self proclaimed "enlightened" teens on this world who disregard the studies of science. Palaeontologists study the remains of fossils left over from the earth's long history and study them along with other scientists to determine our ancestral past.

I'm not saying I can prove anything but just about every logical scientist in this field of study could prove evolution without a sweat. As for your "proof", you can't believe everything you see on the internet.

Let's just say, for a second, that evolution did not in fact create humans. How would you explain how we came to be here? Give me a logical, plausible explanation please. No offence, but come back when you can back up this claim with proven sources. ESPECIALLY when you are claiming that one of the greatest scientific finds in our history is false.

^Nothing personal, just a strictly scientific reply.

PS. I would also like to ask you to state at least 3 "problems" with the theory of evolution
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:05 pm

Unfortunately, they can't prove it, sorry. Why don't you try?
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:11 pm

Since you weren't able to come up with a single problem with this theory and can't state your own belief of creation...

I can't try to prove it because I am not a scientist, I have not even graduated high school yet. However, I have been educated well enough to know how evolution works. There are very few flaws in this theory, and only insignificant ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:38 pm

Lolicu: explain the fact that there is no proof for either evolution or big bang. Legit nothing on the latter. Letters came from your keyboard but you didn't say anything. The proof against it is there, either get in or get out before it ends up everywhere. It is actually just a hypothesis, with no tests ever done.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:19 am

Have you really never been to school Gr33n? Or maybe in America they don't teach you anything. The only reason I have not yet posted up links for the fact is that I would not like to be a hypocrite. I have stated that not all information on the internet is true.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0317_060317_big_bang.html
Somewhat proves Big Bang Theory
Note: I never stated that the Bing Bang theory was true. I just stated that the theory of evolution and the theory of the Big Bang are two completely different theories and are not to be mixed together in any way.

http://www.allaboutscience.org/evolution-of-man.htm
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It is NOT a hypothesis. Saying that NO tests have been done on evolution makes me think you are an idiot. No offence. There is no proof against evolution by valid authors. None of you can obviously think of any flaws with evolution either, or I would have heard of it already. You haven't even given me any counter-theories about how life came to be on earth? What did you think, that we just appeared out of nowhere?

The theory of evolution does have a few missing links, so there is a very slim chance it can be proven wrong, which is the case for almost every theory every made. But saying that no tests have been done on the theory of evolution is just pure ignorance.


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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:21 am

Evolution is true. It happens all the time. The degree is not as large though as people classify "evolution". Ever seen the Flu Virus? It evolves every year which is why we still take flu shots. You cannot deny it.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:31 am

My view: Humans do not have the potential to understand reality. We evolved from early life forms on Earth. earth was created through the big bang. big bang/ universe was created by supernatural being. STOP. I do not believe that something as small as a human can possibly imagine any sort of thing/being greater than this. Its like a program trying to imagine reality. Its confusing, but if you get where I'm coming from, then it makes sense
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:59 am

Greater than what? Supernatural being? I don't think I know where you're coming from Lolwut

Well we might as well be the ones to imagine it. Humans are the only species in the world capable of imagination on this scale. It's not as if a bear can do it.

Maybe in a hundred years we will be able invent a program that creates worlds and realities. Maybe we'll be those "supernatural beings". Maybe the whole universe we live in is created by a program invented in an alternate universe, where humans are living in the year 3011.

Or maybe dinosaurs never really died. Instead they left Earth to live on other planets and decided to make humans. Who knows? Dinosaurs could have been much more intelligent than us.

Millions of theories can be made up about how life came to be, but evolution is the most logical explanation. And that is why we stick by it.
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:54 am

Lol that isn't at all why we take flu shots. Yay for not looking it up! LolICU, it wouldn't be a theory if it was proved, now would it? THEORY of evpouting, big bang THEORY.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:49 am

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Lol that isn't at all why we take flu shots. Yay for not looking it up! LolICU, it wouldn't be a theory if it was proved, now would it? THEORY of evpouting, big bang THEORY.

Oh sorry I didn't realize that my science teacher who was a scientist for many years was lying to me. And yes it is why we take flu shots. Prove it with a credible source if you think you're still right.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:21 pm

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Lol that isn't at all why we take flu shots. Yay for not looking it up! LolICU, it wouldn't be a theory if it was proved, now would it? THEORY of evpouting, big bang THEORY.

Oh sorry I didn't realize that my science teacher who was a scientist for many years was lying to me. And yes it is why we take flu shots. Prove it with a credible source if you think you're still right.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize that MY science teacher, who is a biologist and the guy who wrote my textbook, who has three Ph.Ds was lying to me. Just because he's a scientist doesn't mean he studies evolution. Why don't you explain to me the lack of transitional fossils??
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:06 pm

Coolstory. I wasn't talking to you. Evolution is true, it happens all the time.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:20 pm

Really, the way I see it, everything just seems too perfect (yes, that's possible).

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These are some of my many questions I'd ask evolutionists, and yeah, some can be proven true, but it kinda puts evolution itself into question--not saying it's wrong, but still...

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:48 pm

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Really, the way I see it, everything just seems too perfect (yes, that's possible).

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These are some of my many questions I'd ask evolutionists, and yeah, some can be proven true, but it kinda puts evolution itself into question--not saying it's wrong, but still...

Evolution =/= Big Bang Theory

Evolution is species being able to evolve to fit their surroundings which happens all the time. Now I'm not saying monkeys turned into men but small changes like bacteria evolving to survive does happen.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:57 pm

The thing you are describing is adaptation, not evolution. Evolution only happens in pokemon

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:23 pm

-How did Earth all of a sudden get water? You know what you get out of an explosion? Carbon, ashes, argon, and dust. No water.
(I think I may be able to answer this)
Scientists do have a theory for this. According to research, Earth was once similar to Venus, a hot planet shrouded in toxic fumes and flames. A comet struck the earth and BAM! Instant water. As you know, the tails of comets are created from ice crystals, which in turn changed into water because of the pressure of the collision.
Of course, there are many other logical theories. Such as the prehistoric bacteriel organisms' release of various gases (hydrogen and oxygen) into the atmosphere. Thus causing immense amounts of rain which created the oceans. If you strip water down to its core, it really is just 2 hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom.

The word theory, when used by scientists, refers to an explanation of reality that has been thoroughly tested so that most scientists agree on it.
- Definition of theory taken out of a dictionary.

Darkprism, MOST scientists agree on evolution, your teacher and the guy who wrote your textbook is in the minority here. There are a few missing links that palaeontologists have not yet uncovered. That is not to say they don't exist. And this is not nearly enough to prove that evolution is false, especially when nobody can come up with an alternative theory of life.
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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:27 pm

^^ so how did the ice crystals get there if there was no water.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:29 pm

Gr33n wrote:
The thing you are describing is adaptation, not evolution. Evolution only happens in pokemon

Search it up before talking.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolution   Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:30 pm

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^^ so how did the ice crystals get there if there was no water.

The ice crystals form the tails of comets...in case you didn't know.
A comet struck the Earth a loong time ago. The collision between the two forces caused the ice crystals (from the tail of the comet) to melt into water.
The comet came from SPACE. And don't ask me how the comet was made, just look it up yourself.
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